From: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
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To: | Vladimir Sitnikov <sitnikov(dot)vladimir(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Konstantin Knizhnik <k(dot)knizhnik(at)postgrespro(dot)ru>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Claudio Freire <klaussfreire(at)gmail(dot)com>, Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Built-in connection pooling |
Date: | 2018-01-29 16:06:27 |
Message-ID: | 20180129160627.GD11613@momjian.us |
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On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 04:02:22PM +0000, Vladimir Sitnikov wrote:
> Bruce>Yes, it would impact applications and you are right most applications
> could not handle that cleanly.
>
> I would disagree here.
> We are discussing applications that produce "lots of idle" connections, aren't
> we? That typically comes from an application-level connection pool.
> Most of the connection pools have a setting that would "validate" connection in
> case it was not used for a certain period of time.
>
> That plays nicely in case server drops "idle, not in a transaction" connection.
Well, we could have the connection pooler disconnect those, right?
> Of course, there are cases when application just grabs a connection from a pool
> and uses it in a non-transacted way (e.g. does some action once an hour and
> commits immediately). However that kind of application would already face
> firewalls, etc. I mean the application should already be prepared to handle
> "network issues".
>
> Bruce> It is probably better to look into
> Bruce>freeing resources for idle connections instead and keep the socket open.
>
> The application might expect for the session-specific data to be present, so it
> might be even worse if the database deallocates all the things but TCP
> connection.
>
> For instance: application might expect for the server-prepared statements to be
> there. Would you deallocate server-prepared statements for those "idle"
> connections? The app would just break. There's no way (currently) for the
> application to know that the statement expired unexpectedly.
I don't know what we would deallocate yet.
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