Re: pg_ctl kill support for KILL signal was Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Add test for postmaster crash restarts.

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: Andrew Dunstan <andrew(dot)dunstan(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: pg_ctl kill support for KILL signal was Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Add test for postmaster crash restarts.
Date: 2017-10-01 21:51:30
Message-ID: 20171001215130.keeiy4ibceyqgyjz@alap3.anarazel.de
Views: Raw Message | Whole Thread | Download mbox | Resend email
Thread:
Lists: pgsql-committers pgsql-hackers

On 2017-10-01 17:47:52 -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
>
>
> On 10/01/2017 04:48 PM, Andres Freund wrote:
> > On 2017-10-01 16:42:44 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> >> Andrew Dunstan <andrew(dot)dunstan(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> writes:
> >>> On 09/30/2017 10:32 PM, Andres Freund wrote:
> >>>> Heh. I'm inclined to take it out. We could add a --use-the-force-luke
> >>>> type parameter, but it doesn't seem worth it.
> >>> I agree, but I think we need this discussed on -hackers. Does anyone
> >>> have an objection to allowing "pg_ctl kill KILL somepid"? As Andres
> >>> points out, in most places you can just call kill from the command line
> >>> anyway, so disallowing it is not really a security feature. Having it
> >>> would let us have portable crash restart tests.
> >> +1 for portable tests, but it still seems like something we don't want
> >> to encourage users to use. What do you think of leaving it out of the
> >> documentation?
> > As far as I can tell we've not documented the set of acceptable signals
> > anywhere but the source. I think we can just keep it that way?
>
>
> As documented it's in the help text:
>
> printf(_("\nAllowed signal names for kill:\n"));
> printf("  ABRT HUP INT QUIT TERM USR1 USR2\n");

Oh, hm. I'd looked above.

> So we can leave it out of there. OTOH I'm not a huge fan of security by
> obscurity. I guess this wouldn't be too bad a case.

I'd personally include it, given that we already allow and document
ABRT. There's no meaningful difference between the two.

Greetings,

Andres Freund

In response to

Responses

Browse pgsql-committers by date

  From Date Subject
Next Message Tom Lane 2017-10-01 22:01:27 Re: pg_ctl kill support for KILL signal was Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Add test for postmaster crash restarts.
Previous Message Andrew Dunstan 2017-10-01 21:47:52 Re: pg_ctl kill support for KILL signal was Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Add test for postmaster crash restarts.

Browse pgsql-hackers by date

  From Date Subject
Next Message Daniel Gustafsson 2017-10-01 21:59:57 Re: pgbench: faster version of tpcb-like transaction
Previous Message Daniel Gustafsson 2017-10-01 21:49:09 Re: PATCH: psql show index with type info