From: | Stefan Huehner <stefan(at)huehner(dot)org> |
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To: | Christoph Berg <myon(at)debian(dot)org>, pgsql-pkg-debian(at)postgresql(dot)org, stefan(dot)huehner(at)openbravo(dot)com |
Subject: | Re: pgsql 9.3 for debian/sid in pgdg repo has asserts enabled causing big performance issues |
Date: | 2017-06-10 23:15:21 |
Message-ID: | 20170610231521.GE11504@huehner.biz |
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On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 10:21:02PM +0200, Christoph Berg wrote:
> Re: Stefan Huehner 2017-06-10 <20170610132747(dot)GD11504(at)huehner(dot)biz>
> > In short:
> > The following part from latest changelog:
> > * debian/rules: Add stub to enable cassert builds (disabled by default).
> >
> > does not work in practice as in debian/rules file the
> >
> > #CASSERT_FLAGS := --enable-cassert
> >
> > line is not commented out as it should have been.
> >
> > That causes severe peformance issues at least in our use-case of batch-inserting lots of data with runtime going from ca. 1min to >=6min.
>
> Hi,
thanks for the fast reply Christoph,
>
> I'm sorry for not properly announcing and documenting this recent
> change properly, we should put a note on the wiki page.
>
Yes, please, mqaybe even news entry in the package?
As at least for our use-case that makes the sid-pgdg completely unusable here. As that overhead is not just small percentage but like factor 5-10 slower.
> What's happening is that in git the line is indeed commented out, but
> then the apt.postgresql.org build scripts will activate the line when
> building for sid-pgdg (which is the whole point why that stub logic
> got introduced). The idea is that one of the distributions on
> apt.postgresql.org should have cassert enabled so the testsuites
> exercise more test cases, for the server packages as well as for
> extension packages. As sid is Debian's development branch, it made
> sense to enable cassert there.
>
From the technical topic i understand just the drawback consequence is:
- sid-pgdg now much better for pg or extension development
- but unusably slow for application development just using postgres as db
- Of course i don't know how many other people are affected so much
A possible alternative could be do have another set of builds for that purpose apart from sid. But that would be quite some extra effort probably on your end :(
> You seem to use the sid-pgdg packages for production data - is there a
> reason you are not using jessie-pgdg or stretch-pgdg?
Not production data just the bootstrap of our application.
Part of that bootstrap is inserting a couple of thousands row into database (via java, jdbc, batched insert) and that is now factor 5-10 slower at least. Didn't look into more details yet as not noticed today that this was a packaging issue and not severe regression on our side.
I am using sid on my local development box and have been using sid-pgdg for past years without issues.
So far there was never a reason to not use the 'matching' sid-pgdg if i run sid for the rest.
My question is if mis-matching i.e. stretch-pgdg with sid will work in the long run (After strech release) ?
I.e. sid some day removing libssl1.0.x but older packages still linking to it (just example)
Stefan
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