Re: PG 10 release notes

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: Merlin Moncure <mmoncure(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Petr Jelinek <petr(dot)jelinek(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: PG 10 release notes
Date: 2017-05-04 22:47:04
Message-ID: 20170504224704.5h5stve5xrgv5xa4@alap3.anarazel.de
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On 2017-05-04 17:33:13 -0500, Merlin Moncure wrote:
> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:
> >> I didn't think logical decoding was really more than a proof-of-concept
> >> until now.
> >
> > /me searches for jaw on floor.

Yea, this kind of argument is getting really old. People, including
Robert and I in this thread, have spent tremendous amounts of work on
it. Not fun to just get that discounted.

> > I would not in any way refer to logical decoding as being only a proof
> > of concept, even before logical replication.
>
> That's fair, but I think I understand what Bruce was going for here.
> Data point: github third party modules are generally not approved for
> deployment in my organization so logical decoding from a production
> perspective does not exist (for me) until 10.0. Point being, an
> important threshold has been crossed.

By that argument the extension APIs, which after all are what external
FDWs, external index types, postgis, and other extensions use, aren't a
feature of postgres. Some sites not being able to use external
extensions is *one* argument for building some things into core, but
that doesn't mean the extension APIs don't exist or aren't features.

- Andres

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