Re: Allow pg_dumpall to work without pg_authid

From: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Robins Tharakan <tharakan(at)gmail(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Allow pg_dumpall to work without pg_authid
Date: 2017-02-28 16:12:35
Message-ID: 20170228161235.GJ9812@tamriel.snowman.net
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Robert,

* Robert Haas (robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com) wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 12:24 AM, Robins Tharakan <tharakan(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > I would like to work on a patch to accommodate restricted environments (such
> > as AWS RDS Postgres) which don't allow pg_authid access since their
> > definition of Superuser is just a regular user with extra permissions.
> >
> > Would you consider a patch to add a flag to work around this restriction,
> > Or, do you prefer that this be maintained outside core?
>
> I am a little surprised that this patch has gotten such a good
> reception. We haven't in the past been all that willing to accept
> core changes for the benefit of forks of PostgreSQL; extensions, sure,
> but forks? Maybe we should take the view that Amazon has broken this
> and Amazon ought to fix it, rather than making it our job to (try to)
> work around their bugs.

I suspect it's gotten a reasonably good reception because it's about
making it possible to do more things as a non-superuser, which is
something that we've got a number of different people working on
currently, with two interesting patches from Dave geared towards doing
that for monitoring. I have no doubt that there will be other users of
this, which means that it isn't "for the benefit of forks" but for users
of core too.

> On the other hand, maybe that approach is narrow-minded.

I agree that we shouldn't be accepting changes into core which are only
applicable and helpful for forks of PG.

Thanks!

Stephen

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