From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
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To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: increasing the default WAL segment size |
Date: | 2016-09-20 20:25:51 |
Message-ID: | 20160920202551.bnqp3p4djm6zijip@alap3.anarazel.de |
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On 2016-09-20 16:18:02 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
> > That sounds way too big to me. WAL file allocation would trigger pretty
> > massive IO storms during zeroing, max_wal_size is going to be hard to
> > tune, the amounts of dirty data during bulk loads is going to be very
> > hard to control. If somebody wants to do something like this they
> > better be well informed enough to override a #define.
>
> EnterpriseDB has customers generating multiple TB of WAL per day.
Sure, that's kind of common.
> Even with a 1GB segment size, some of them will fill multiple files
> per minute. At the current limit of 64MB, a few of them would still
> fill more than one file per second. That is not sane.
I doubt generating much larger files actually helps a lot there. I bet
you a patch review that 1GB files are going to regress in pretty much
every situation; especially when taking latency into account.
I think what's actually needed for that is:
- make it easier to implement archiving via streaming WAL; i.e. make
pg_receivexlog actually usable
- make archiving parallel
- decouple WAL write & fsyncing granularity from segment size
Requiring a non-default compile time or even just cluster creation time
option for tuning isn't something worth expanding energy on imo.
Andres
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