From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)heroku(dot)com>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: rethinking dense_alloc (HashJoin) as a memory context |
Date: | 2016-07-13 20:49:46 |
Message-ID: | 20160713204946.oxamzrsqfxcyzgm6@alap3.anarazel.de |
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On 2016-07-13 16:39:58 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Tomas Vondra
> > <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> > What's not clear to me is to what extent slowing down pfree is an
> > acceptable price for improving the behavior in other ways. I wonder
> > how many of the pfree calls in our current codebase are useless or
> > even counterproductive, or could be made so.
>
> I think there's a lot, but I'm afraid most of them are in contexts
> (pun intended) where aset.c already works pretty well, ie it's a
> short-lived context anyway.
FWIW, hacking up the aset/mcxt.c to use a trivial allocator with less
overhead (i.e. just hand out sections out of a continuous block of
memory) results in a noticeable speedup in parse heavy workloads. It's a
bit ugly though, because of the amount of retail pfrees in random
places.
> The areas where we're having pain are
> where there are fairly long-lived contexts with lots of pfree traffic;
> certainly that seems to be the case in reorderbuffer.c. Because they're
> long-lived, you can't just write off the pfrees as ignorable.
That's a problem too.
> I wonder whether we could compromise by reducing the minimum "standard
> chunk header" to be just a pointer to owning context, with the other
> fields becoming specific to particular mcxt implementations. That would
> be enough to allow contexts to decide that pfree was a no-op, say, or that
> they wouldn't support GetMemoryChunkSpace(), without having to decree that
> misuse can lead to crashes. But that's still more than zero overhead
> per-chunk.
I think that's a sensible compromise for some use-cases (e.g. parsing,
parse analysis, potentially expression contexts).
Andres
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