Re: Lets (not) break all the things. Was: [pgsql-advocacy] 9.6 -> 10.0

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)bluetreble(dot)com>, "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Josh berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Justin Clift <justin(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Merlin Moncure <mmoncure(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers Mailing List <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Lets (not) break all the things. Was: [pgsql-advocacy] 9.6 -> 10.0
Date: 2016-06-21 16:15:34
Message-ID: 20160621161534.GI24184@momjian.us
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On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:12:34PM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> >> > What is confusing you?
> >>
> >> I don't think I'm confused. Sure, you can do that, but the effects of
> >> any writes performed on the new cluster will not be there when you
> >> revert back to the old cluster. So you will have effectively lost
> >> data, unless you somehow have the ability to re-apply all of those
> >> write transactions somehow.
> >
> > Yes, that is true. I assume _revert_ means something really bad
> > happened and you don't want those writes because they are somehow
> > corrupt.
>
> I think that it's pretty likely you could, say, upgrade to a new major
> release, discover that it has a performance problem or some other bug
> that causes a problem for you, and want to go back to the older
> release. There's not really an easy way to do that, because a pg_dump
> taken from the new system might not restore on the older one. Logical
> replication - e.g. Slony - can provide a way, but we don't have
> anything in core that can do it.

Yes, there is data loss in a rollback to the old cluster, no question.

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