From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
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To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Michael Paquier <michael(dot)paquier(at)gmail(dot)com>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Reviewing freeze map code |
Date: | 2016-06-20 21:59:43 |
Message-ID: | 20160620215943.73hekh5phsq65uk5@alap3.anarazel.de |
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On 2016-06-20 17:55:19 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
> > On 2016-06-20 16:10:23 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> >> What exactly is the point of all of that already_marked stuff?
> >
> > Preventing the old tuple from being locked/updated by another backend,
> > while unlocking the buffer.
> >
> >> I
> >> mean, suppose we just don't do any of that before we go off to do
> >> toast_insert_or_update and RelationGetBufferForTuple. Eventually,
> >> when we reacquire the page lock, we might find that somebody else has
> >> already updated the tuple, but couldn't that be handled by
> >> (approximately) looping back up to l2 just as we do in several other
> >> cases?
> >
> > We'd potentially have to undo a fair amount more work: the toasted data
> > would have to be deleted and such, just to retry. Which isn't going to
> > super easy, because all of it will be happening with the current cid (we
> > can't just increase CommandCounterIncrement() for correctness reasons).
>
> Why would we have to delete the TOAST data? AFAIUI, the tuple points
> to the TOAST data, but not the other way around. So if we change our
> mind about where to put the tuple, I don't think that requires
> re-TOASTing.
Consider what happens if we, after restarting at l2, notice that we
can't actually insert, but return in the !HeapTupleMayBeUpdated
branch. If the caller doesn't error out - and there's certainly callers
doing that - we'd "leak" a toasted datum. Unless the transaction aborts,
the toasted datum would never be cleaned up, because there's no datum
pointing to it, so no heap_delete will ever recurse into the toast
datum (via toast_delete()).
Andres
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