Re: 9.6 -> 10.0

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Cc: Devrim Gunduz <devrim(at)gunduz(dot)org>, pgsql-advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>, "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Josh berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
Subject: Re: 9.6 -> 10.0
Date: 2016-05-12 16:09:02
Message-ID: 20160512160902.GD2632@momjian.us
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On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 05:43:28PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>
> On May 12, 2016 17:36, "Bruce Momjian" <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:
> > In a master/slave setup with pg_logical, a major upgrade is _near_
> > zero-downtime, because you have to switch over all write transactions at
> > a single point in time when you promote the slave to master.  So you
> > have to either prevent new write transactions from going to the slave
> > while you wait for the master transactions to finish, or (more likely)
> > you have to terminate the write transactions on the master and then
> > promote the slave to master and allow everything to reconnect.
> >
> > (In practice, you can't change a read/write server to read-only without
> > a restart, so effectively all old-master transactions have to be drained
> > at some point.)
>
> You can make it closer to, or completely zero, if you combine it with pgbouncer
> in transaction pooling mode. There will be a performance hiccup, but it should
> work.

That is an interesting approach. How many applications are prepared to
re-sent a transaction block based on the error returned by pgbouncer in
this case?

I am thinking our docs need a new section about reducing downtime during
switch-over, and using logical replication for major version upgrades.

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