Re: silent data loss with ext4 / all current versions

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: Michael Paquier <michael(dot)paquier(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, PostgreSQL mailing lists <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: silent data loss with ext4 / all current versions
Date: 2016-01-22 12:54:27
Message-ID: 20160122125427.GA4961@awork2.anarazel.de
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On 2016-01-22 21:32:29 +0900, Michael Paquier wrote:
> Group shot with 3), 4) and 5). Well, there is no data loss here,
> putting me in the direction of considering this addition of an fsync
> as an optimization and not a bug.

I think this is an extremely weak argument. The reasoning when exactly a
loss of file is acceptable is complicated. In many cases adding an
additional fsync won't add measurable cost, given the frequency of
operations and/or the cost of surrounding operations.

Now, if you can make an argument why something is potentially impacting
performance *and* definitely not required: OK, then we can discuss
that.

Andres

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