| From: | Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> | 
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| To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> | 
| Cc: | Kouber Saparev <kouber(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-admin(at)postgresql(dot)org | 
| Subject: | Re: VACUUM unable to accomplish because of a non-existent MultiXactId | 
| Date: | 2015-11-27 20:47:57 | 
| Message-ID: | 20151127204757.GF4320@alvherre.pgsql | 
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> writes:
> > Tom Lane wrote:
> >> Couldn't creation and deletion of a toasted object within the same
> >> transaction do it?
> 
> > I tried and couldn't find a way to cause one to appear.  When a row is
> > created, it has xmax=0 so when it's deleted the xmax can just be set to
> > the deleting xact.  And we don't ever update pg_toast rows, AFAIK.
> 
> Ah, nevermind, brain fade ... I was momentarily confusing this with
> combo CIDs.  Right, there are no updates or row locks taken on toast
> table rows (unless someone were to do one manually?)
Both UPDATE and SELECT FOR UPDATE fail right away:
alvherre=# update pg_toast.pg_toast_16398 set chunk_id = 7 where chunk_id = 5;
ERROR:  cannot change TOAST relation "pg_toast_16398"
alvherre=# select * from pg_toast.pg_toast_16398 for update;
ERROR:  cannot lock rows in TOAST relation "pg_toast_16398"
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Álvaro Herrera                http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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