Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table.

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)bluetreble(dot)com>, Sawada Masahiko <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Greg Stark <stark(at)mit(dot)edu>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Jeff Janes <jeff(dot)janes(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table.
Date: 2015-04-23 15:38:57
Message-ID: 20150423153857.GD25323@momjian.us
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On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:42:59AM +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> On 04/22/2015 09:24 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
> >>I would feel safer if we added a completely new "epoch" counter to the page
> >>>header, instead of reusing LSNs. But as we all know, changing the page
> >>>format is a problem for in-place upgrade, and takes some space too.
> >Yeah. We have a serious need to reduce the size of our on-disk
> >format. On a TPC-C-like workload Jan Wieck recently tested, our data
> >set was 34% larger than another database at the beginning of the test,
> >and 80% larger by the end of the test. And we did twice the disk
> >writes. See "The Elephants in the Room.pdf" at
> >https://sites.google.com/site/robertmhaas/presentations
>
> Meh. Adding an 8-byte header to every 8k block would add 0.1% to the
> disk size. No doubt it would be nice to reduce our disk footprint,
> but the page header is not the elephant in the room.

Agreed. Are you saying we can't find a way to fit an 8-byte value into
the existing page in a backward-compatible way?

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