From: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
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To: | Marko Tiikkaja <marko(at)joh(dot)to> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: get_actual_variable_range vs idx_scan/idx_tup_fetch |
Date: | 2015-03-20 02:38:52 |
Message-ID: | 20150320023852.GB6317@momjian.us |
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On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 02:20:45PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 06:15:03PM +0200, Marko Tiikkaja wrote:
> > On 10/18/14, 5:46 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> > >Marko Tiikkaja <marko(at)joh(dot)to> writes:
> > >>Yes, exactly; if I had had the option to disable the index from the
> > >>optimizer's point of view, I'd have seen that it's not used for looking
> > >>up any data by any queries, and thus I would have known that I can
> > >>safely drop it without slowing down queries. Which was the only thing I
> > >>cared about, and where the stats we provide failed me.
> > >
> > >This argument is *utterly* wrongheaded, because it assumes that the
> > >planner's use of the index provided no benefit to your queries. If the
> > >planner was touching the index at all then it was planning queries in
> > >which knowledge of the extremal value was relevant to accurate selectivity
> > >estimation. So it's quite likely that without the index you'd have gotten
> > >different and inferior plans, whether or not those plans actually chose to
> > >use the index.
> >
> > Maybe. But at the same time that's a big problem: there's no way of
> > knowing whether the index is actually useful or not when it's used
> > only by the query planner.
>
> That is a good point. Without an index, the executor is going to do a
> sequential scan, while a missing index to the optimizer just means worse
> statistics.
I have applied the attached patch to document that the optimizer can
increase the index usage statistics.
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Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> http://momjian.us
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