From: | "ktm(at)rice(dot)edu" <ktm(at)rice(dot)edu> |
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To: | Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)BlueTreble(dot)com> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Teodor Sigaev <teodor(at)sigaev(dot)ru>, David Rowley <dgrowleyml(at)gmail(dot)com>, Pgsql Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: hash_create API changes (was Re: speedup tidbitmap patch: hash BlockNumber) |
Date: | 2014-12-19 23:37:07 |
Message-ID: | 20141219233707.GA19678@aart.rice.edu |
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On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 04:41:51PM -0600, Jim Nasby wrote:
> On 12/18/14, 5:00 PM, Jim Nasby wrote:
> >2201582 20 -- Mostly LOCALLOCK and Shared Buffer
>
> Started looking into this; perhaps https://code.google.com/p/fast-hash/ would be worth looking at, though it requires uint64.
>
> It also occurs to me that we're needlessly shoving a lot of 0's into the hash input by using RelFileNode and ForkNumber. RelFileNode includes the tablespace Oid, which is pointless here because relid is unique per-database. We also have very few forks and typically care about very few databases. If we crammed dbid and ForkNum together that gets us down to 12 bytes, which at minimum saves us the trip through the case logic. I suspect it also means we could eliminate one of the mix() calls.
>
> But I wonder if we could still do better, because we typically also won't have that many relations. Is there some fast way we could combine dbid, forkNum and relid into a uint32? That gets us down to 8 bytes, which means we could use fash-hash, or a stripped down mix().
>
> Unfortunately I don't know much about hash algorithms, so I don't know how practical any of this actually is, or what a good method for combining those fields would be. My current idea is something like (rot(forkNum, 2) | dbid) ^ relid, but if you got unlucky with your oid values you could end up with a lot of collissions from that.
>
> I can put some effort into this, but I'd like some guidance.
> --
> Jim Nasby, Data Architect, Blue Treble Consulting
> Data in Trouble? Get it in Treble! http://BlueTreble.com
>
Hi,
If we are going to consider changing the hash function, we should
consider something like xxhash which runs at 13.8GB/s on a 2.7GHz
x86_64 for the XXH64 variant and 6.8GB/s for the XXH32 variant which
is double the speed of fast-hash according to the page running on a
3GHz x86_64. In addition, something like that could be used a checksum
instead of the current CRC32, although some work has already gone into
speeding it up, as is. Otherwise, it probably makes sense to just stick
with creating the fastpath 8-byte analogously to the 4-byte fastpath
that was just added. Is calculating the hash the bottle-neck?
Regards,
Ken
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