Re: superuser() shortcuts

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Adam Brightwell <adam(dot)brightwell(at)crunchydatasolutions(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: superuser() shortcuts
Date: 2014-11-26 15:23:00
Message-ID: 20141126152300.GE9815@alap3.anarazel.de
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On 2014-11-26 10:18:20 -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Andres Freund (andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com) wrote:
> > I don't see how you read the contrary from the guidelines:
> > > The primary message should be short, factual, and avoid reference to
> > > implementation details such as specific function names. "Short" means
> > > "should fit on one line under normal conditions". Use a detail message
> > > if needed to keep the primary message short, or if you feel a need to
> > > mention implementation details such as the particular system call that
> > > failed. Both primary and detail messages should be factual. Use a hint
> > > message for suggestions about what to do to fix the problem, especially
> > > if the suggestion might not always be applicable. It's quite common
> > > that you'll only see the actual error message in logs and displayed
> > > error messages.
>
> Having to be the owner of a relation to TRUNCATE it was an
> implementation detail, and one which changed back in 2008.
>
> Needing to have the replication role attribute is an implementation
> detail. It's not the error- the error is *permission denied to do X*.

That's just plain absurd. If the user needs to explicitly configure that
permission it's damned sure not just a implementation detail.

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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