From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
Cc: | Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)BlueTreble(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Greg Stark <stark(at)mit(dot)edu>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Proposal: Log inability to lock pages during vacuum |
Date: | 2014-11-10 18:52:21 |
Message-ID: | 20141110185221.GI28007@alap3.anarazel.de |
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On 2014-11-10 15:36:55 -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Andres Freund wrote:
> > On 2014-11-10 14:28:30 -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>
> > > If what we want is to quantify the extent of the issue, would it be more
> > > convenient to save counters to pgstat? Vacuum already sends pgstat
> > > messages, so there's no additional traffic there.
> >
> > I'm pretty strongly against that one in isolation. They'd need to be
> > stored somewhere and they'd need to be queryable somewhere with enough
> > context to make sense. To actually make sense of the numbers we'd also
> > need to report all the other datapoints of vacuum in some form. That's
> > quite a worthwile project imo - but *much* *much* more work than this.
>
> We already have "last_autovacuum" columns and such in pg_stat_tables et
> al, which only record the last value. My thinking regarding such
> numbers is that you would save histories and put them in a chart, see
> how they evolve with time. I doubt the individual numbers are worth
> much, but the trends might show something interesting.
I don't think they mean anything without also reporting the number of
buffers actually scanned and other related stats.
Greetings,
Andres Freund
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