From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: removing volatile qualifiers from lwlock.c |
Date: | 2014-09-17 11:45:58 |
Message-ID: | 20140917114558.GR25887@awork2.anarazel.de |
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Hi,
On 2014-09-10 14:53:07 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> As discussed on the thread "Spinlocks and compiler/memory barriers",
> now that we've made the spinlock primitives function as compiler
> barriers (we think), it should be possible to remove volatile
> qualifiers from many places in the source code. The attached patch
> does this in lwlock.c. If the changes in commit
> 0709b7ee72e4bc71ad07b7120acd117265ab51d0 (and follow-on commits) are
> correct and complete, applying this shouldn't break anything, while
> possibly giving the compiler room to optimize things better than it
> does today.
>
> However, demonstrating the necessity of that commit for these changes
> seems to be non-trivial. I tried applying this patch and reverting
> commits 5b26278822c69dd76ef89fd50ecc7cdba9c3f035,
> b4c28d1b92c81941e4fc124884e51a7c110316bf, and
> 0709b7ee72e4bc71ad07b7120acd117265ab51d0 on a PPC64 POWER8 box with a
> whopping 192 hardware threads (thanks, IBM!). I then ran the
> regression tests repeatedly, and I ran several long pgbench runs with
> as many as 350 concurrent clients. No failures.
There's actually one more commit to revert. What I used was:
git revert 5b26278822c69dd76ef89fd50ecc7cdba9c3f035 \
b4c28d1b92c81941e4fc124884e51a7c110316bf \
68e66923ff629c324e219090860dc9e0e0a6f5d6 \
0709b7ee72e4bc71ad07b7120acd117265ab51d0
> So I'm posting this patch in the hope that others can help. The
> relevant tests are:
>
> 1. If you apply this patch to master and run tests of whatever kind
> strikes your fancy, does anything break under high concurrency? If it
> does, then the above commits weren't enough to make this safe on your
> platform.
>
> 2. If you apply this patch to master, revert the commits mentioned
> above, and again run tests, does anything now break? If it does (but
> the first tests were OK), then that shows that those commits did
> something useful on your platform.
I just tried this on my normal x86 workstation. I applied your lwlock
patch and ontop I removed most volatiles (there's a couple still
required) from xlog.c. Works for 100 seconds. Then I reverted the above
commits. Breaks within seconds:
master:
LOG: request to flush past end of generated WAL; request 2/E5EC3DE0, currpos 2/E5EC1E60
standby:
LOG: record with incorrect prev-link 4/684C3108 at 4/684C3108
and similar.
So at least for x86 the compiler barriers are obviously required and
seemingly working.
I've attached the very quickly written xlog.c de-volatizing patch.
Greetings,
Andres Freund
--
Andres Freund http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services
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