From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Reporting the commit LSN at commit time |
Date: | 2014-08-09 16:54:55 |
Message-ID: | 20140809165455.GF23678@alap3.anarazel.de |
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On 2014-08-07 21:02:54 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> writes:
> > On 08/08/2014 03:54 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
> >> FWIW, I think it's a seriously bad idea to expose LSNs in the protocol
> >> at all. What happens five years from now when we switch to some other
> >> implementation that doesn't have LSNs?
>
> > Everyone who's relying on them already via pg_stat_replication, etc, breaks.
> > They're _already_ exposed to users. That ship has sailed.
>
> They're exposed to replication tools, yeah, but embedding them in the
> wire protocol would be moving the goalposts a long way past that. As an
> example of something that doubtless seemed like a good idea at the time,
> consider the business about how an INSERT command completion tag includes
> the OID of the inserted row. We're stuck with that obsolete idea
> *forever* because it's embedded in the protocol for all clients.
I don't think we really need to embed it at that level. And it doesn't
have to be always on - only clients that ask for it need to get the
answer. Something like COMMIT WITH (report_commit_lsn ON); or similar
might do the trick?
Greetings,
Andres Freund
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