From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Reduce the number of semaphores used under --disable-spinlocks. |
Date: | 2014-06-18 19:56:49 |
Message-ID: | 20140618195649.GE3968@awork2.anarazel.de |
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On 2014-06-18 15:52:49 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 2014-01-08 23:58:16 +0000, Robert Haas wrote:
> >> Reduce the number of semaphores used under --disable-spinlocks.
> >>
> >> Instead of allocating a semaphore from the operating system for every
> >> spinlock, allocate a fixed number of semaphores (by default, 1024)
> >> from the operating system and multiplex all the spinlocks that get
> >> created onto them. This could self-deadlock if a process attempted
> >> to acquire more than one spinlock at a time, but since processes
> >> aren't supposed to execute anything other than short stretches of
> >> straight-line code while holding a spinlock, that shouldn't happen.
> >>
> >> One motivation for this change is that, with the introduction of
> >> dynamic shared memory, it may be desirable to create spinlocks that
> >> last for less than the lifetime of the server. Without this change,
> >> attempting to use such facilities under --disable-spinlocks would
> >> quickly exhaust any supply of available semaphores. Quite apart
> >> from that, it's desirable to contain the quantity of semaphores
> >> needed to run the server simply on convenience grounds, since using
> >> too many may make it harder to get PostgreSQL running on a new
> >> platform, which is mostly the point of --disable-spinlocks in the
> >> first place.
> >
> > I'm looking at the way you did this in the context of the atomics
> > patch. Won't:
> > s_init_lock_sema(volatile slock_t *lock)
> > {
> > static int counter = 0;
> >
> > *lock = (++counter) % NUM_SPINLOCK_SEMAPHORES;
> > }
> >
> > lead to bad results if spinlocks are intialized after startup?
>
> Why?
Because every further process will start with a copy of the postmaster's
counter or with 0 (EXEC_BACKEND)?
> > Essentially mapping new spinlocks to the same semaphore?
>
> Yeah, but so what? If we're mapping a bajillion spinlocks to the same
> semaphore already, what's a few more?
Well, imagine something like parallel query creating new segments,
including a spinlock (possibly via a lwlock) at runtime. If there were
several backends processing such queries this they'd all map to the same
semaphore.
Andres Freund
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