From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas(at)vmware(dot)com>, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)heroku(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Wanted: jsonb on-disk representation documentation |
Date: | 2014-05-07 13:50:12 |
Message-ID: | 20140507135012.GD13397@awork2.anarazel.de |
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On 2014-05-07 09:44:36 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> writes:
> > On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>wrote:
> >> Well, I guess it depends on what we define 'beta1' to be. Imo evaluating
> >> problematic pieces of new code, locating unfinished pieces is part of
> >> that. I don't see much point in forbidding incompatible changes in beta1
> >> personally. That robs th the development cycle of the only period where
> >> users can actually test the new version in a halfway sane manner and
> >> report back with things that apparently broken.
>
> > We need to be very careful to tell people about it though. Preferrably if
> > we *know* a dump/reload will be needed to go beta1->beta2, we should
> > actually document that in the releasenotes of beta1 already. So people can
> > make proper plans..
>
> This seems like much ado about very little. The policy will be the same
> as it ever was: once beta1 is out, we prefer to avoid forcing an initdb,
> but we'll do it if we have to.
I think Magnus' point is that we should tell users that we'll try but
won't guarantee anything. -hackers knowing about it doesn't mean users
will know.
Andres Freund
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