From: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, David Johnston <polobo(at)yahoo(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: psql \d+ and oid display |
Date: | 2014-04-09 08:25:02 |
Message-ID: | 20140409082502.GG8685@momjian.us |
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On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 01:02:05AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> > Well, that's sorta my concern. I mean, right now we've got people
> > saying "what the heck is a replica identity?". But, if the logical
> > decoding stuff becomes popular, as I hope it will, that's going to be
> > an important thing for people to adjust, and the information needs to
> > be present in a clear and easily-understood way. I haven't studied
> > the current code in detail so maybe it's fine. I just want to make
> > sure we're not giving it second-class treatment solely on the basis
> > that it's new and people aren't using it yet.
>
> I think the proposal is "don't mention the property if it has the
> default value". That's not second-class status, as long as people
> who know what the property is understand that behavior. It's just
> conserving screen space.
Yes, the lines will certainly appear if you have set _anything_ as
non-default, both oids and replica identity. Kind of the same as how we
show indexes and child tables if any exist (it is non-default), and
unlogged tables.
I know I have fielded questions during training asking, "What is that
OID line?", so I do know it confuses people. It does give me a chance
to talk about it, but based on how often it is useful, I am not sure
that is a win.
Ideally we would deal with oids for 9.5, but since I think everyone
agrees that replica identity and oids should behave the same, we need to
decide this for 9.4.
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Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> http://momjian.us
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