From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)heroku(dot)com> |
Cc: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas(at)vmware(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: INSERT...ON DUPLICATE KEY LOCK FOR UPDATE |
Date: | 2014-01-02 10:37:54 |
Message-ID: | 20140102103754.GB22496@awork2.anarazel.de |
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On 2014-01-02 02:20:02 -0800, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:49 AM, Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> >> Well, you're not totally on your own for something like that with this
> >> feature. You can project the conflicter's tid, and possibly do a more
> >> sophisticated recovery, like inspecting the locked row and iterating.
> >
> > Yea, but in that case I *do* conflict with more than one index and old
> > values need to stay locked. Otherwise anything resembling
> > forward-progress guarantee is lost.
>
> I'm not sure I understand. In a very real sense they do stay locked.
> What is insufficient about locking the definitively visible row with
> the value, rather than the value itself?
Locking the definitely visible row only works if there's a row matching
the index's columns. If the values of the new row don't have
corresponding values in all the indexes you have the same old race
conditions again.
I think to be useful for many cases you really need to be able to ask
for a potentially conflicting row and be sure that if there's none you
are able to insert the row separately.
Greetings,
Andres Freund
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