From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Jim Nasby <jim(at)nasby(dot)net>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Peter Geoghegan <peter(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: [PERFORM] encouraging index-only scans |
Date: | 2013-09-20 15:51:33 |
Message-ID: | 20130920155133.GB12763@awork2.anarazel.de |
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On 2013-09-20 11:30:26 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> > The reason I suggested keeping track of the xids of unremovable tuples
> > is that the current logic doesn't handle that at all. We just
> > unconditionally set n_dead_tuples to zero after a vacuum even if not a
> > single row could actually be cleaned out. Which has the effect that we
> > will not start a vacuum until enough bloat (or after changing this, new
> > inserts) has collected to start vacuum anew. Which then will do twice
> > the work.
> >
> > Resetting n_dead_tuples to the actual remaining dead tuples wouldn't do
> > much good either - we would just immediately trigger a new vacuum the
> > next time we check, even if the xmin horizon is still the same.
>
> One idea would be to store the xmin we used for the vacuum somewhere.
> Could we make that part of the pgstats infrastructure? Or store it in
> a new pg_class column? Then we could avoid re-triggering until it
> advances. Or, maybe better, we could remember the oldest XID that we
> weren't able to remove due to xmin considerations and re-trigger when
> the horizon passes that point.
I suggested a slightly more complex variant of this upthread:
http://archives.postgresql.org/message-id/20130907053449.GE626072%40alap2.anarazel.de
Greetings,
Andres Freund
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