From: | David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | David Gudeman <dave(dot)gudeman(at)gmail(dot)com>, Postgres <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: pass-through queries to foreign servers |
Date: | 2013-07-31 22:58:37 |
Message-ID: | 20130731225837.GI21263@fetter.org |
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On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 01:22:56AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org> writes:
> > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 04:40:38PM -0700, David Gudeman wrote:
> >> When you write an application involving foreign tables, you frequently
> >> end up with queries that are just too inefficient because they bring
> >> too much data over from the foreign server. For a trivial example,
> >> consider "SELECT count(*) FROM t" where t is a foreign table. This
> >> will pull the entire table over the network just to count up the rows.
>
> > Yes, and this case is a known limitation of our planner
> > infrastructure. Aggregates are "special" when it comes to
> > generating paths for the planner to evaluate, so there's no current
> > way a FDW could supply such info to the planner, and hence no API in
> > our FDW code for having FDWs supply that info. That's probably a
> > "should fix" but I don't know whether a project that size could be
> > done by 9.4.
>
> Yeah. There's a lot left to be done in the FDW infrastructure.
> But not this:
>
> > All that said, my DBI-Link, back in the bad old days, provided two
> > important functions: remote_select(), which returned SETOF RECORD and
> > remote_execute(), which returned nothing. It also provided ways to
> > control connections to the remote host, introspect remote schemas,
> > etc., etc. We need capabilities like that in the FDW API, I believe
> > we could have them by 9.4.
>
> I would argue we *don't* want that. If you want pass-through queries
> or explicit connection control, your needs are already met by dblink or
> dbi-link.
The standard actually describes a passthrough mode. That mode is
mind-numbingly weird, but it's there. It's weird because As far as I
can tell, when it's set to true, all commands, *whether the local
server can parse them or not*, are sent to the foreign server until
it's set to false again.
We can easily do better.
Cheers,
David.
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