Re: Patch for fail-back without fresh backup

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas(at)vmware(dot)com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Pavan Deolasee <pavan(dot)deolasee(at)gmail(dot)com>, Samrat Revagade <revagade(dot)samrat(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Patch for fail-back without fresh backup
Date: 2013-06-14 14:10:14
Message-ID: 20130614141014.GF19500@alap2.anarazel.de
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On 2013-06-14 16:58:38 +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> On 14.06.2013 16:15, Andres Freund wrote:
> >On 2013-06-14 09:08:15 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> >>I just had my nose in the part of the checksum patch that tediously
> >>copies entire pages out of shared buffers to avoid possible instability
> >>of the hint bits while we checksum and write the page.
> >
> >I am really rather uncomfortable with that piece of code, and I hacked
> >it up after Jeff Janes had reported a bug there (The one aborting WAL
> >replay to early...). So I am very happy that you are looking at it.
>
> Hmm. In XLogSaveBufferForHint():
>
> > * Note that this only works for buffers that fit the standard page model,
> > * i.e. those for which buffer_std == true
>
> The free-space-map uses non-standard pages, and MarkBufferDirtyHint(). Isn't
> that completely broken for the FSM? If I'm reading it correctly, what will
> happen is that replay will completely zero out all FSM pages that have been
> touched. All the FSM data is between pd_lower and pd_upper, which on
> standard pages is the "hole".

Jeff Davis has a patch pending
(1365493015(dot)7580(dot)3240(dot)camel(at)sussancws0025) that passes the buffer_std
flag down to MarkBufferDirtyHint() for exactly that reason. I thought we
were on track committing that, but rereading the thread it doesn't look
that way.

Jeff, care to update that patch?

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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