From: | David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org> |
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To: | Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
Cc: | "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jonathan(dot)katz(at)excoventures(dot)com>, Michael Banck <michael(dot)banck(at)credativ(dot)de>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Andreas Karlsson <andreas(at)proxel(dot)se>, Ian Lawrence Barwick <barwick(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: 9.3 Beta 1 Coming Soon! |
Date: | 2013-04-24 01:34:02 |
Message-ID: | 20130424013402.GH28020@fetter.org |
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On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 04:27:52PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote:
> On 2013-04-22 10:25:34 -0400, Jonathan S. Katz wrote:
> > On Apr 22, 2013, at 4:08 AM, Michael Banck wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Am Freitag, den 19.04.2013, 09:41 -0700 schrieb Josh Berkus:
> > >> So, here's what we potentially have as "worth mentioning":
> > >>
> > >> * Views (updatable, matviews)
> > >> * Federation (writeable fdw, pgsql_fdw)
> > >> * LATERAL
> > >> * regex indexes
> > >> * No more SHMMAX/SHMMALL
> > >>
> > >> Is that everything?
> > >
> > > I am not sure "No more SHMMAX/SHMMALL" should be in the top 5 - it is
> > > quite nice that DBAs do not have to fiddle with it anyway, but will it
> > > make people say "wow, *now* I will finally try PostgreSQL"? It does not
> > > look like a major new feature to me, but rather (but not really) like a
> > > bug-fix or implementation detail.
> >
> > For developers who have had so much trouble installing / running Postgres on their local machines, it is a big deal. I don't know how many people I have had to help install Postgres on their local environments because it would not run right out of the box.
>
> Yea. Besides not understanding pg_hba.conf its probably the most
> frequent problems I have seen with new (and not so new) users.
>
> > > Unless I missed some huge performance gains due to it, in which case I
> > > think it should be worded differently.
> >
> > That I definitely agree with. Perhaps along the lines of "Removed need to tweak OS shared memory settings?"
>
> I'd still formulate it as "reduce" as you still need to change variables
> if you have many clusters or higher max_connections.
How about, "Removed the most common cases for tweaking OS shared
memory settings" or something along that line?
Cheers,
David.
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