Re: Heroku early upgrade is raising serious questions

From: Michael Meskes <meskes(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To: "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jonathan(dot)katz(at)excoventures(dot)com>
Cc: damien clochard <damien(at)dalibo(dot)info>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Heroku early upgrade is raising serious questions
Date: 2013-04-09 09:54:12
Message-ID: 20130409095412.GB16657@feivel.credativ.lan
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On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 06:58:57PM -0400, Jonathan S. Katz wrote:
> In this specific case, DBaaS providers were exposed to a bug that is
> relatively easy to exploit with potentially dire consequences that could
> potentially ruin many, many businesses (I do not want to give a bad estimate,
> so I won't provide a number). Let's say this horrible scenario happened:

So you're saying we make it dependant on how many business critical
installations a provider runs? In theory that makes a lot of sense, but in
reality I fail to see how to do this.

> sure, people could say that a DBaaS provider did not adequately secure their
> system, but fingers could also be pointed at the community for a) having a
> security hole in the first place (as ludicrous as that sounds to us as we
> know that software is flawed AND Postgres has an *excellent* track record for
> security) and b) not recognizing the damage that could be caused by not
> permitting systems considered to be "critical infrastructure" early access to
> a fix.

How about a big corporate user where PostgreSQL is the backbone? Wouldn't look
good for us either, but not being a DBaaS provider they are not in our focus
here. Makes me wonder why.

Michael
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