Re: [pgsql-pkg-debian] Re: We should not transition to apt.postgresql.org until we have a PPA

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Martin Pitt <mpitt(at)debian(dot)org>
Cc: Brendan Jurd <direvus(at)gmail(dot)com>, Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc>, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Christoph Berg <myon(at)debian(dot)org>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, PostgreSQL WWW <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>, PostgreSQL in Debian <pgsql-pkg-debian(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Subject: Re: [pgsql-pkg-debian] Re: We should not transition to apt.postgresql.org until we have a PPA
Date: 2013-02-19 16:01:41
Message-ID: 20130219160140.GC4582@awork2.anarazel.de
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On 2013-02-19 16:53:30 +0100, Martin Pitt wrote:
> Andres Freund [2013-02-18 21:52 +0100]:
> > The PPA:
> > - only supported a few versions of pg, not all supported ones
>
> Right, only those which were supported in any Ubuntu release. E. g.
> 9.0 has never been in any Ubuntu release, thus there's nothing to
> backport them from.
>
> > - regularly dropped releases while they were still supported by PGDG
>
> To be fair, I only drop packages for obsolete Ubuntu releases. And
> after people have yelled loud enough, I even put them back.

> > All that is understandable, its a lot of work, but it really sucks if
> > you use pg productively and suddently no updates are available anymore
> > for the version youre using.
>
> If you run a production server on an EOLed Ubuntu release, you
> shouldn't complain. You are not going to get any security update any
> more, so staying at a slightly outdated PostgreSQL version is really
> not making much of a difference.

I am pretty sure you had some versions (e.g. 9.0) in your ppa for some
time, and dropped them afterwards, probably for the above reason that it
was never in a stable release.

Just to make that very, very clear: I am not blaming you for
anything. To the contrary. Your PPA is/was great, and the effort is
very, very much appreciated. Its just that apt.pg.o promises and
hopefully delivers more.

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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Andres Freund http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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