Re: Re: [pgsql-www] We should not transition to apt.postgresql.org until we have a PPA

From: Martin Pitt <mpitt(at)debian(dot)org>
To: Brendan Jurd <direvus(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc>, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Christoph Berg <myon(at)debian(dot)org>, Martin Pitt <mpitt(at)debian(dot)org>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, PostgreSQL WWW <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>, PostgreSQL in Debian <pgsql-pkg-debian(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Subject: Re: Re: [pgsql-www] We should not transition to apt.postgresql.org until we have a PPA
Date: 2013-02-19 15:50:44
Message-ID: 20130219155044.GH3033@piware.de
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Brendan Jurd [2013-02-19 7:14 +1100]:
> This may be a daft question to ask at this point in the discussion,
> but what does apt.postgresql.org buy us that a PPA doesn't?

From my POV it's really not about the technical implementation of the
archive (PPA or otherwise). It's because apt.p.o has a lot more
packages, in particular extensions or pgadmin, and also because it's
got a really nice automatic Jenkins deployment and testing system
which ensures that all integration regression tests succeed before a
package hits the world.

I. e. it centralizes all the efforts of backporting postgresql stuff.
In principle you can do the very same with a PPA as well, but at the
end of the day users shouldn't really care what we call "that thing
over there that gives me packages" like, as long as there's a simple
way to get it?

> If the concern is to have Debian/Ubuntu packaging that has an
> "official" project flavour, as opposed to Martin's "personal" package
> archive, why don't we just set up a "postgres" PPA or similar?

Making it smell "official" is certainly an aspect. But OTOH I'm quite
surprised how many people use my PPA, so it doesn't seem to be much of
a concern :-)

> I guess I just don't understand why in Zeus' beard we would move away
> from the PPA arrangement.

I'm not pushing to move away from a PPA, but away from having to do
duplicate work, and wanting to close my rather small PPA for the
comparatively rich set of packages that apt.p.o offers.

Thanks,

Martin
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