From: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
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To: | Merlin Moncure <mmoncure(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Claudio Freire <klaussfreire(at)gmail(dot)com>, Jon Nelson <jnelson+pgsql(at)jamponi(dot)net>, Peter Geoghegan <peter(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, David Greco <David_Greco(at)harte-hanks(dot)com>, "pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: SOLVED - RE: Poor performance using CTE |
Date: | 2012-11-24 00:21:49 |
Message-ID: | 20121124002149.GA1594@momjian.us |
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On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 02:24:01PM -0600, Merlin Moncure wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Jon Nelson <jnelson+pgsql(at)jamponi(dot)net> wrote:
> > As can be seen by the current conversation, not everyone is convinced
> that CTEs ought to be an explicit optimization barrier
>
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Claudio Freire <klaussfreire(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > It *could* just be a lack of imagination on my part. But if it were
> > not, then it'd be nice for it to be done automatically (since this
> > particular CTE behavior bites enough people already).
>
> Sure. I just find it personally hard to find a good demarcation line
> between A: "queries where pushing quals through are universally
> beneficial and wanted" and B: "queries where we are inserting an
> explicit materialization step to avoid planner issues", particularly
> where there is substantial overlap with between A and C: "queries that
> are written with a CTE and arguably shouldn't be".
>
> Put another way, I find CTE to express: 'this then that' where joins
> express 'this with that'. So current behavior is not surprising at
> all. All that said, there could be a narrow class of low hanging cases
> (such as the OP's) that could be sniped...I'm just skeptical.
Is thi
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