Re: Adding comments for system table/column names

From: Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
Cc: PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgreSQL(dot)org>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Subject: Re: Adding comments for system table/column names
Date: 2012-10-13 11:03:49
Message-ID: 20121013110349.GA19108@tornado.leadboat.com
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 01:29:21PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> There was a thread in January of 2012 where we discussed the idea of
> pulling system table/column name descriptions from the SGML docs and
> creating SQL comments for them:
>
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2012-01/msg00837.php
>
> Magnus didn't seem to like the idea:
>
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2012-01/msg00848.php
>
> Well, I'd expect some of those columns to get (at least over time)
> significantly more detailed information than they have now. Certainly
> more than you'd put in comments in the catalogs. And having some sort
> of combination there seems to overcomplicate things...
>
> I think the idea of having the short descriptions in SQL and longer ones
> in SGML is not maintainable. One idea would be to clip the SQL
> description to be no longer than a specified number of characters, with
> proper word break detection.

I prefer overlong entries to machine-truncated ones. Seeing "Does the access
method support ordered" for both pg_am.amcanorder and pg_am.amcanorderbyop
thanks to the choice of truncation point does not seem like a win.

We could store a short version in the SGML markup, solely for this process to
extract. In its absence, use the documentation-exposed text. The extractor
could emit a warning when it uses a string longer than N characters, serving
as a hint to add short-version markup for some column. If that's too hard,
though, I'd still prefer overlong entries to nothing or to truncated entries.

> Should I continue working on this patch?

Please do; I've missed having this information handy.

Thanks,
nm

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