Re: Shared invalidation cache messages for temporary tables

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Shared invalidation cache messages for temporary tables
Date: 2011-03-14 14:21:41
Message-ID: 201103141421.p2EELf511970@momjian.us
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Robert Haas wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:
> > Simon Riggs wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 20:44 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >> > Looking at the code, it seems we create shared invalidation messages for
> >> > temporary table activity? ?Is this true? ?Should we be avoiding it?
> >> >
> >> > I tested this by reviewing the code and checking calls to
> >> > CacheInvalidateHeapTuple(), which happens for temporary table
> >> > creation/destruction.
> >>
> >> Yes, that gets called.
> >>
> >> But in PrepareForTupleInvalidation() we ignore everything apart from
> >> system relations, as the first check.
> >
> > OK, so this is no problem? ?There is no optimization needed here?
> > Thanks.
>
> Since your original email is fairly unclear about what you think the
> problem is, it's a bit hard to speculate here, but like Simon, I don't
> see any obvious problem here. Maybe you're asking not so much about
> inserts, updates, or deletes into temporary tables but about creating
> and making modifications to them, which will generate catcache and
> relcache flushes when the pg_class/pg_attribute entries are updated.
> But I don't think those invalidation messages can be optimized away,
> since other backends can access temporary tables of other sessions in
> limited ways - for example, they can drop them.

Sorry, yes that was my point --- should we be doing as much cache
invalidation traffic for temporary tables as we are doing? I think you
are saying we are fine and there are no optimizations possible.

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