From: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
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To: | Mark Mielke <mark(at)mark(dot)mielke(dot)cc> |
Cc: | Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>, Ron Mayer <rm_pg(at)cheapcomplexdevices(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Kevin Grittner <Kevin(dot)Grittner(at)wicourts(dot)gov>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, Marko Kreen <markokr(at)gmail(dot)com>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Greg Stark <gsstark(at)mit(dot)edu>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, mlortiz <mlortiz(at)uci(dot)cu>, Albe Laurenz <laurenz(dot)albe(at)wien(dot)gv(dot)at> |
Subject: | Re: Rejecting weak passwords |
Date: | 2009-10-16 17:40:24 |
Message-ID: | 200910161740.n9GHeOk05208@momjian.us |
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Mark Mielke wrote:
> > Personally I think the calculator/wires approach is better from an
> > engineering perspective, but it can be a handicap in the user experience
> > and checkbox categories --- ease of use is perhaps not our strong point.
> > Much of our open source value is being different, in both cost,
> > reliability, and configurability.
>
> I found this true of a lot of tools. I still remember when the mutt
> developers argued against putting IMAP in their solution because they
> thought there might be a better "IMAP component" client out there.
> Eventually, such arguments are dropped, as the practical sense on the
> matter says that tight integration is a requirement.
>
> I don't see how PostgreSQL has really failed in this regard. Maybe
> Oracle comes out-of-box with more features - but this doesn't make it
> necessarily a more "complete" solution - it just means it has more bells
> and whistles. A bicycle doesn't need a ticking card mounted through the
> spokes for it to be considered a "complete solution". :-) Somebody might
> one day want that "feature" - but it's extra - it's not core.
Agreed. Many commercial database solutions start to look like
Frankenstein with all the bolted-on components.
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Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> http://momjian.us
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