Re: pg_migrator issue with contrib

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine(at)hi-media(dot)com>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, Brad Nicholson <bnichols(at)ca(dot)afilias(dot)info>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: pg_migrator issue with contrib
Date: 2009-06-08 16:55:45
Message-ID: 200906081655.n58Gtju22379@momjian.us
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> writes:
> > Tom Lane wrote:
> >> There is a different problem though: sometimes the recommended fix for
> >> contrib-module incompatibilities is to load the new contrib module into
> >> the target database before trying to load your old dump file. (We told
> >> people to do that for 8.2->8.3 tsearch2, for example.) In the
> >> pg_migrator context there is no way to insert the new contrib module
> >> first, and also no way to ignore the duplicate-object errors that you
> >> typically get while loading the old dump.
>
> > Ah, OK, interesting. We could have pg_migrator detect this issue and
> > fail right away with a message indicating pg_migrator cannot be used
> > unless those objects are dumped manually and the /contrib removed.
>
> How would it detect it? I think the only thing you could do is
> hard-wire tests for specific objects, which is klugy and doesn't
> extend to third-party modules that you don't know about.

Yep, that is the only way. The good news is that we are not modifying
any data so it is just a detection issue, i.e. it would not destabilize
pg_migrator's operation.

> In most cases where there are major incompatibilities, attempting to
> load the old dump file would fail anyway, so I don't think pg_migrator
> really needs any hard-wired test. It's the minor changes that are
> risky. I think ultimately the burden for those has to be on the module
> author: he has to either avoid cross-version incompatibilities or make
> sure they will fail safely.

Yep.

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