From: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, Brad Nicholson <bnichols(at)ca(dot)afilias(dot)info>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: pg_migrator issue with contrib |
Date: | 2009-06-08 15:27:46 |
Message-ID: | 200906081527.n58FRl406384@momjian.us |
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> writes:
> > Let me list the problems with pg_migrator:
>
> > o /contrib and plugin migration (not unique to pg_migrator)
> > o you must read/follow the install instructions
> > o might require post-migration table/index rebuilds
> > o new so serious bugs might exist
>
> I think that #1 and #4 could be substantially alleviated if the
> instructions recommended doing a trial run with a schema-only dump
> of the database. That is,
>
> * pg_dumpall -s
> * load that into a test installation (of the *old* PG version)
> * migrate the test installation to new PG version
> * do the same sorts of applications compatibility checks you'd want to
> do anyway before a major version upgrade
But you have no data in the database --- can any meaningful testing be
done?
FYI, pg_migrator will do the schema load pretty early (even before the
file copy) and fail on errors. Retrying pg_migrator is pretty easy and
is now well documented in the INSTALL file.
> This would certainly catch migration-time failures caused by plugins,
> and the followup testing would probably catch any large post-migration
> issue.
>
> Somebody who is not willing to do this type of testing should not be
> using pg_migrator (yet), and probably has not got a database large
> enough to need it anyway.
Agreed.
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