Re: off-topic: SPAM

From: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>
To: Gregory Stark <stark(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Cc: pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>
Subject: Re: off-topic: SPAM
Date: 2008-04-24 22:00:11
Message-ID: 20080424185405.B41681@fserv.hub.org
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'k, just checked and yes, we have blocked one Brazil domain in the past
because of this issue:

subscribe
deny, reason="uol.com.br requires non-spam confirmation .. "
/@uol.com.br/i || /Moniquechristien(at)cs(dot)com/i

So we could add similar ... but, the question comes back to if they have a
spam confirmation required, how is email getting to them in order to
subscribe them in the first place? The only way I can think of is that
this is a feature that has been added *since* they registered ...

If someone wants to write up a nice form letter, I can send out an
individual message to each user in the *.br domain, and for each that
bounce back with a 'confirmation required', remove them ... but I'm not
sure if it makes much sense to go through the confirm and see if they can
work around the issue ...

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On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Gregory Stark wrote:
>
>> "Alvaro Herrera" <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org> writes:
>>
>>> Marc G. Fournier escribi:
>>>>
>>>> where are the reports going to? am I missing off a list somewhere?
>>>>
>>>> of course, your response really didn't enlighten me any ... what is the
>>>> problem that is being seen / reported ?
>>>
>>> The problem is that any time some posts to pgsql-performance he gets a
>>> bounce from a postmaster in infotecnica.com.br domain.
>>>
>>> It has been reported in several lists:
>>>
>>> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-www/2007-12/msg00203.php
>>> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2007-12/msg00697.php
>>> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-performance/2007-12/msg00126.php
>>
>> The only way we're going to solve this is to send a personalized email to
>> every subscriber of pgsql-performance. We might be able to get away with
>> just
>> doing brazilian subscribers first and hope it's one of those.
>
> That would only be 42 email addresses, so not *too* painful, but if their
> email requires a 'challenge-response' to send to them, how did they get
> subscribed in the first place, as our subscribe method is
> 'challenge-response' also, which means they have to receive the email we send
> to them automaticalloy in the first place ...
>
> So, are these a result of forwarding, vs direct subscription?

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