Re: hibernate + postgresql ?

From: Luca Ferrari <fluca1978(at)infinito(dot)it>
To: David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>
Cc: pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: hibernate + postgresql ?
Date: 2007-12-05 10:39:13
Message-ID: 200712051139.14112.fluca1978@infinito.it
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On Saturday 1 December 2007 David Fetter's cat, walking on the keyboard,
wrote:
> You'd only think so if you hadn't actually seen these things in
> action. They save no time because of the silly, unreasonable
> assumptions underlying them, which in turn cause people to do silly,
> unreasonable things in order to make them "work."
>

I guess this is a problem you can have with all the middlewares, since they
can improve things putting on abstractions, but when they start doing things
in a way that is not tied to the lower level they must be general and start
imposing a methodology rather than a technology. By the way, is there
something in particular you are talking about?

> You'll wind up writing each SQL statement anyway, so just start out
> with that rather than imagining that a piece of software can pick the
> appropriate level of abstraction and then finding out that it can't. :)

Uhm...even if you write the SQL statements by hand you will end up (probabily)
writing your own piece of software that gives you any kind of abstraction, so
there's a risk you can find it inadeguate too later in the development
process. By the way I don't still understand if you find them inadeguate
because you'll write SQL statements to keep performances, data integrity,
both.....

Luca

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