Re: rolcanlogin vs. the flat password file

From: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: pgsql-hackers(at)postgreSQL(dot)org
Subject: Re: rolcanlogin vs. the flat password file
Date: 2007-10-14 20:51:12
Message-ID: 20071014205112.GJ5031@tamriel.snowman.net
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* Tom Lane (tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us) wrote:
> We could certainly change flatfiles.c to disregard rolcanlogin, which'd
> actually make the code simpler. However, that in itself wouldn't change
> the behavior, unless you were to assign a password to the NOLOGIN role
> which seems a fairly strange thing to do. I think what the OP wishes
> is that "not permitted to log in" would be checked before checking
> password validity, and to do that we'd have to add rolcanlogin
> to the flat password file and put the check somewhere upstream of the
> authentication process.

I wonder if the OP was unhappy because he created a role w/ a pw and
then couldn't figure out why the user couldn't log in? I've run into
that in the past and it takes some leg-work to figure out what's going
on. A warning on a 'create role' or 'alter role' command which sets a
password when 'rolcanlogin' is false might be an alternative way to
'fix' this.

In general, I would say that it's correct to say 'invalid
authentication'/'bad pw' until the user is authenticated and then say
'not permitted to log in' if they're not authorized (don't have
rolcanlogin), which is I think what we do. That combined with the
warning above would, I think, cover most of problem cases.

Thanks,

Stephen

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