From: | Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net> |
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To: | Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Gregory Stark <stark(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>, pgsql-patches <pgsql-patches(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: dblink connection security |
Date: | 2007-07-09 03:55:28 |
Message-ID: | 20070709035528.GR4887@tamriel.snowman.net |
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* Joe Conway (mail(at)joeconway(dot)com) wrote:
> If you are going to argue that we should revoke access for non-superusers
> by default for dblink, then you are also arguing that we should do the same
> for every function created with any untrusted language.
Uh, no, one doesn't imply the other. It doesn't follow that because a
specific, known insecure, function shouldn't be available to all users
immediately that quite probably safe/secure functions (even though
they're written in an untrusted language- what has that got to do with
anything?) also shouldn't be.
> E.g. as I pointed out to Robert last week, just because an unsafe function
> is created in plperlu, it doesn't mean that a non-superuser can't run it
> immediately after it is created. There is no difference. It is incumbent
> upon the DBA/superuser to be careful _whenever_ they create any function
> using an untrusted language.
This isn't a case of the DBA/superuser writing the function. It's being
provided by a package. It's also *inherently* insecure and isn't just a
matter of "being careful". You can create functions in an untrusted
language carefully enough to allow it to be called by other users. It
is simply prudent for the package provider to disable insecure functions
by default.
Thanks,
Stephen
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