From: | "Jim C(dot) Nasby" <decibel(at)decibel(dot)org> |
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To: | Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com> |
Cc: | Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Luke Lonergan <LLonergan(at)greenplum(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Zeugswetter Andreas ADI SD <ZeugswetterA(at)spardat(dot)at>, "CK(dot)Tan" <cktan(at)greenplum(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: Seq scans roadmap |
Date: | 2007-05-15 22:34:11 |
Message-ID: | 20070515223411.GV20707@nasby.net |
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On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 10:25:35AM -0700, Jeff Davis wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 10:42 +0100, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> > Luke Lonergan wrote:
> > > 32 buffers = 1MB with 32KB blocksize, which spoils the CPU L2 cache
> > > effect.
> > >
> > > How about using 256/blocksize?
> >
> > Sounds reasonable. We need to check the effect on the synchronized
> > scans, though.
> >
>
> I am a little worried that there will be greater differences in position
> as the number of scans increase. If we have only 8 buffers and several
> scans progressing, will they all be able to stay within a few buffers of
> eachother at any given time?
>
> Also, with 8 buffers, that means each scan must report every 4 pages at
> most (and maybe every page), which increases lock contention (the new
> design Heikki and I discussed requires a lock every time a backend
> reports its position).
Given that spoiling the L2 cache is a trivial cost compared to extra
physical IO, ISTM we should go with a largish ring for sync scans. What
do you think would be the ideal size? 32 buffers?
--
Jim Nasby decibel(at)decibel(dot)org
EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com 512.569.9461 (cell)
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