Re: Bug: Buffer cache is not scan resistant

From: Sherry Moore <sherry(dot)moore(at)sun(dot)com>
To: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Sherry Moore <sherry(dot)moore(at)sun(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Luke Lonergan <LLonergan(at)greenplum(dot)com>, Mark Kirkwood <markir(at)paradise(dot)net(dot)nz>, Pavan Deolasee <pavan(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Gavin Sherry <swm(at)alcove(dot)com(dot)au>, PGSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Doug Rady <drady(at)greenplum(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Bug: Buffer cache is not scan resistant
Date: 2007-03-07 03:05:09
Message-ID: 20070307030509.GB473601@sun.com
Views: Raw Message | Whole Thread | Download mbox | Resend email
Thread:
Lists: pgsql-hackers

Hi Simon,

> and what you haven't said
>
> - all of this is orthogonal to the issue of buffer cache spoiling in
> PostgreSQL itself. That issue does still exist as a non-OS issue, but
> we've been discussing in detail the specific case of L2 cache effects
> with specific kernel calls. All of the test results have been
> stand-alone, so we've not done any measurements in that area. I say this
> because you make the point that reducing the working set size of write
> workloads has no effect on the L2 cache issue, but ISTM its still
> potentially a cache spoiling issue.

What I wanted to point out was that (reiterating to avoid requoting),

- My test was simply to demonstrate that the observed performance
difference with VACUUM was caused by whether the size of the
user buffer caused L2 thrashing.

- In general, application should reduce the size of the working set
to reduce the penalty of TLB misses and cache misses.

- If the application access pattern meets the NTA trigger condition,
the benefit of reducing the working set size will be much smaller.

Whatever I said is probably orthogonal to the buffer cache issue you
guys have been discussing, but I haven't read all the email exchange
on the subject.

Thanks,
Sherry
--
Sherry Moore, Solaris Kernel Development http://blogs.sun.com/sherrym

In response to

Browse pgsql-hackers by date

  From Date Subject
Next Message Trevor Hardcastle 2007-03-07 03:06:29 CREATE TABLE LIKE INCLUDING INDEXES support
Previous Message Jeff Davis 2007-03-07 02:28:30 Re: Bug: Buffer cache is not scan resistant