From: | David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org> |
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To: | mdean <mdean(at)xn1(dot)com> |
Cc: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Andy Astor <andya(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, "'Joshua D(dot) Drake'" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, 'Andrew Sullivan' <ajs(at)crankycanuck(dot)ca>, 'Robert Bernier' <robert(dot)bernier5(at)sympatico(dot)ca>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: On future conferences |
Date: | 2006-09-30 16:01:55 |
Message-ID: | 20060930160155.GJ24766@fetter.org |
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On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 06:23:02AM -0700, mdean wrote:
> Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >Andy Astor wrote:
> >
> >>...and EnterpriseDB.
> >>
> >
> >What isn't clear is whether EnterpriseDB offers straight PostgreSQL
> >training, rather than EnterpriseDB product training.
> >
> I see only expensive courses in North Carolina, Ottawa, and
> Swizerland. The Enterprisedb site does not mention training.
> Postgresql vendors need to adopt the SAS model and offer lower
> priced courses in many more cities, such as in San Francisco,
> Oakland, Des Moines, etc. or let users kill two birds with one
> stone and take courses AND certification at major conferences, like
> linux is doing with Linuxworld. We all know the Pervasive model for
> "support" does not work, I would question how popular these training
> courses are either. Personally my company would not pay 3-5 grand
> plus travel costs for one week courses. So like the conferences,
> the courses relate only to elitest elements, and offer nothing for
> the masses, which are good reasons why postgresql is NOT used by the
> masses. After over a full year in reviewing the operations of the
> postgresql community, I sense a strong elitest mentality and an
> unwillingness to define and take care of customers. A formula for
> failure.
Are you proposing something to change this, or are you just whining
again? If it's the latter, please do yourself and the rest of us a
faovor and leave.
Cheers,
D
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