Re: Getting a move on for 8.2 beta

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Lukas Kahwe Smith <smith(at)pooteeweet(dot)org>
Cc: Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Getting a move on for 8.2 beta
Date: 2006-09-02 16:40:34
Message-ID: 200609021640.k82GeYw25440@momjian.us
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Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
> Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
> >> Robert Treat wrote:
> >>
> >>> No offense, a whole lot of this thread seems to be positioned that way, but
> >>> the real problem seems to be we do not have enough patch reviewers. ISTM the
> >>> questions we should be asking are who can actually help out with patch review
> >>> and then ask those people why they haven't done it. If folks like Peter,
> >>> Andrew, Magnus, Simon, Joe, and Niel all say that they are not reviewing
> >>> patches because they can't find the patches that need review, they can't
> >>> figure out who is reviewing what, or they don't think anyone is paying
> >>> attention when they do review something, then I think we have a serious
> >>> problem and we certainly need to change processes. What I think you'll find
> >>> is that they are all just busy working on other things, which in that case I
> >>> think we need to figure out how to motivate them to focus on the patch queue
> >>> rather than other items. IMHO
> >> I think that if all the patches are listed with all relevant context
> >> information on a webpage, then people can more easily jump in when they
> >> unexpectedly have time (or prefer to procrastinate some other real world
> >> thing they should rather work on). Right now if you have a few hours to
> >> spare you do not have all the information readily available. Even worse
> >> by inquiring for the information you might feel you are commiting more
> >> than you really wanted to. This kind of information needs to be right
> >> there without any person having to actively provide it upon inquiry.
> >
> > OK, how does that happen without a lot of work, or moving all discussion
> > on to a web-based system?
>
> No discussion takes place on the lists and IRC and busy bees make sure
> that the progress/decisions etc get updated on the static wiki. Wiki's
> suck at discussions, but they are great to store the decisions made so
> that anyone can get himself upto speed and things do not get lost over time.
>
> It seems that you have been the only busy bee so far, and we definitely
> need more for this to work.

Yea, I was afraid that was the answer. :-(

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