From: | Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Greg Stark <gsstark(at)mit(dot)edu>, Neil Conway <neilc(at)samurai(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)surnet(dot)cl>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: NOLOGGING option, or ? |
Date: | 2005-06-01 23:02:17 |
Message-ID: | 200506012302.j51N2H921211@candle.pha.pa.us |
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> writes:
> > One idea would be to look at the table file size first. If it has zero
> > blocks, lock the table and if it still has zero blocks, do the no-WAL
> > copy.
>
> I think that's a bad idea. It would make the behavior unpredictable
> --- sometimes a COPY will take an exclusive lock, and other times not;
> and the reason why is at a lower semantic level than the user is
> supposed to know about.
>
> Before you say "this is not important", consider the nontrivial risk
> that the stronger lock will cause a deadlock failure. I don't think
> that it's acceptable for lock strength to be unpredictable.
Yea, but you are only doing the lock if the table is zero pages.
Doesn't that help? Maybe not.
I do like the LOCK keyword if we have to use one to enable this
functionality, but I am suspecting people will want this functionality
in pg_dump output. How do we do that? Just make it the default for
pg_dump output?
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