Re: Oracle Style packages on postgres

From: elein(at)varlena(dot)com (elein)
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Dave Held <dave(dot)held(at)arraysg(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Oracle Style packages on postgres
Date: 2005-05-11 21:41:43
Message-ID: 20050511214143.GC23283@varlena.com
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Adding to the ambiguity is the dot notation used for
composite columns. Don't forget the other end ignoring
those required parens.

is foo.bar.zap
a database.schema.table
a schema.table.column
a table.column.column

--elein

On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 03:21:42PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> "Dave Held" <dave(dot)held(at)arraysg(dot)com> writes:
> > /*
> > * We check the catalog name and then ignore it.
> > */
> > if (!isValidNamespace(name[0]))
> > {
> > if (strcmp(name[0], get_database_name(MyDatabaseId)) != 0)
> > ereport(ERROR,
>
> Which more or less proves my point: the syntax is fundamentally
> ambiguous. I suppose people would learn not to use schema names that
> match the database they are in, but that doesn't make it a good idea to
> have sensible behavior depend on non-overlap of those names.
>
> [ thinks for awhile ... ]
>
> OTOH, what if we pretended that two-level-nested schemas ARE catalogs
> in the sense that the SQL spec expects? Then we could get rid of the
> pro-forma special case here, which isn't ever likely to do anything more
> useful than throw an error anyway. Thus, we'd go back to the pre-7.3
> notion that the current Postgres DB's name isn't part of the SQL naming
> scheme at all, and instead handle the spec's syntax requirements by
> setting up some conventions that make a schema act like what the spec
> says is a catalog.
>
> There are some nontrivial issues to be thought about here, like under
> what conditions "CREATE SCHEMA foo" ought to create a top-level schema
> versus creating a schema under some other schema that we are pretending
> is the active "catalog". But it seems on first glance like something
> could be worked out.
>
> regards, tom lane
>
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