From: | Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Michael Paesold <mpaesold(at)gmx(dot)at> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Rob Butler <crodster2k(at)yahoo(dot)com>, Oleg Bartunov <oleg(at)sai(dot)msu(dot)su>, Jeff Davis <jdavis-pgsql(at)empires(dot)org>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Problem with PITR recovery |
Date: | 2005-04-21 12:57:38 |
Message-ID: | 200504211257.j3LCvcZ25528@candle.pha.pa.us |
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Michael Paesold wrote:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>
> > Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >> OK, makes sense. Could we give them a command to archive it before they
> >> shut down? That would make sense.
> >
> > Not if the idea is to be certain you got everything ... I think what we
> > have to do is document a manual procedure for archiving the last XLOG
> > file.
>
> What Bruce would want is a way to "stop new transactions, archive and
> shutdown", which would do this atomically. Then we could have another
> shutdown switch for pg_ctl.
Yea, probably a separate switch, or an additional switch to pg_clt would
be best, but then we have to add to pg_ctl.
> But yea, a documentation for a manual procedure would be ok, too, just not
> as user friendly.
Right. I just hate the 'do this, do that' instructions to PITR. When
they get too long/complex, I get worried.
I used to use Informix's ontape, which was a bad user interface because
the admin had to be sure it was always running. Anyway, when you
control-C'ed the process, it would flush out any partially written wal
file and you knew you had everything.
I am thinking a special pg_ctl flag, and disabling -W for that so you
have to wait for the success message. Of course we then have to
document the use of the pg_ctl flag then.
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