Re: pgsql-server: > Please find enclose a submission

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Fabien COELHO <coelho(at)cri(dot)ensmp(dot)fr>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, pgsql-committers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: pgsql-server: > Please find enclose a submission
Date: 2004-08-31 11:34:54
Message-ID: 200408311134.i7VBYsR28890@candle.pha.pa.us
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Given your analysis it seems we have already chosen the best solution
--- shame we can't include that #ifdef stuff from a central file though.

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Fabien COELHO wrote:
>
> Dear Tom,
>
> > I am not any keener than you on this particular approach ... the nesting
> > of ifdefs in the makefiles seems mighty ugly.
>
> I agree with you.
>
> > But I'd like to find a way to clean it up, not just claim that we don't
> > need to do it.
>
> At least six suggestions, make your choice:
>
> (1) submitted with the first version: having a separate makefile
> for pgxs, and use "make -f the-pgxs-makefile target"
> -> the pgxs makefile is very similar to the contrib one.
> -> it looked a burden to have two sets of makefiles to be maintained.
> -> thus Peter suggested that it was not a good idea, and I agreed.
>
> (2) having the ifdef stuff in the common part included by contrib
> makefile, contrib/contrib-global.mk. done in submission 3 I think.
> -> it was breaking the "vpath" feature, because of a chicken-and-egg
> problem on the definition of top_srcdir, which required two separate
> includes, although one include is fine with pgxs.
> -> thus Peter rejected it.
> I agree that existing things must not be broken.
>
> (3) the ifdef stuff is put in every makefile. done in submission 4.
> -> this is the current status in dev.
> -> it solves both previous issues.
> -> Tom finds it ugly, and he is right;-)
>
> (4) remove in-source tree compilation, so that there is only pgxs.
> -> that would make much simpler makefiles
> -> that would break the vpath feature.
> -> that would mean that compiling/installing contrib must
> be done AFTER the server is compiled and installed.
> From an administrator point of view, I don't see that as a big issue.
> That's the case with apache external modules and I have never found
> it a problem in the past years.
> -> However ISTM that it is a political decision that pg-managers
> are not akin to make.
>
> (5) improve pgxs so that it works easilly both in-source and out-source.
> But I don't know how to that cleanly and without the kind of
> ifdef that are already there and are found ugly... Maybe solution
> (2) could be improved so that it works fine for vpath? As I'm not
> a vpath user, I'm not sure whether it can be achieved. Peter would
> be the best man to look into that, but the previous version he
> proposed broke pgxs because it required to include Makefile.global
> which is not there under pgxs.
>
> (6) provide the same functionnality with any other mean:
> a special executable like apache "apxs" command, or whatever.
>
> I did not chose this approach because it looked quite simple
> to adapt the existing contrib infrastructure to make it work
> outside of the source tree... indeed, all the work was already
> done and it was more a re-packaging issue.
>
> If someone else want to do it, fine with me, I don't stick to my
> particular implementation: I just want the feature;-)
>
> Have a nice day,
>
> --
> Fabien Coelho - coelho(at)cri(dot)ensmp(dot)fr
>
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