Re: Interpreting vacuum verbosity

From: "Ed L(dot)" <pgsql(at)bluepolka(dot)net>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Interpreting vacuum verbosity
Date: 2004-05-10 17:40:25
Message-ID: 200405101140.25610.pgsql@bluepolka.net
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On Monday May 10 2004 11:37, Ed L. wrote:
> On Friday May 7 2004 12:48, Tom Lane wrote:
> > "Ed L." <pgsql(at)bluepolka(dot)net> writes:
> > > 2) Would this low setting of 10000 explain the behavior we saw of
> > > seqscans of a perfectly analyzed table with 1000 rows requiring
> > > ridiculous amounts of time even after we cutoff the I/O load?
> >
> > Possibly. The undersized setting would cause leakage of disk space
> > (that is, new rows get appended to the end of the table even when space
> > is available within the table, because the system has "forgotten" about
> > that space due to lack of FSM slots to remember it in). If the
> > physical size of the table file gets large enough, seqscans will take a
> > long time no matter how few live rows there are. I don't recall now
> > whether your VACUUM VERBOSE results showed that the physical table size
> > (number of pages) was out of proportion to the actual number of live
> > rows. But it sure sounds like that might have been the problem.
>
> If it were indeed the case that we'd leaked a lot of diskspace, then
> after bumping max_fsm_pages up to a much higher number (4M), will these
> pages gradually be "remembered" as they are accessed by autovac and or
> queried, etc? Or is a dump/reload or 'vacuum full' the only way? Trying
> to avoid downtime...

I mean, I see that our VACUUM (not full) does appear to be truncating and
reducing the number of pages in some cases. Is that possible? If so, just
thinking a DB restart will be much less complicated than dropping/reloading
the individual table. VACUUM FULL has always been way too slow for our
purposes, not sure why.

TIA.

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