From: | Sean Chittenden <sean(at)chittenden(dot)org> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Manfred Koizar <mkoi-pg(at)aon(dot)at>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Correlation in cost_index() |
Date: | 2003-08-07 20:44:19 |
Message-ID: | 20030807204419.GJ94710@perrin.int.nxad.com |
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> > AFAICS (part of) the real problem is in costsize.c:cost_index() where
> > IO_cost is calculated from min_IO_cost, pages_fetched,
> > random_page_cost, and indexCorrelation. The current implementation
> > uses indexCorrelation^2 to interpolate between min_IO_cost and
> > max_IO_cost, which IMHO gives results that are too close to
> > max_IO_cost.
>
> The indexCorrelation^2 algorithm was only a quick hack with no theory
> behind it :-(. I've wanted to find some better method to put in there,
> but have not had any time to research the problem.
Could we "quick hack" it to a geometric mean instead since a mean
seemed to yield better results than indexCorrelation^2?
> > As nobody knows how each of these proposals performs in real life
> > under different conditions, I suggest to leave the current
> > implementation in, add all three algorithms, and supply a GUC variable
> > to select a cost function.
>
> I don't think it's really a good idea to expect users to pick among
> multiple cost functions that *all* have no guiding theory behind them.
> I'd prefer to see us find a better cost function and use it. Has anyone
> trawled the database literature on the subject?
Hrm, after an hour of searching and reading, I think one of the better
papers on the subject can be found here:
http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/PAPERS/TKDE-NNmodels.pdf
Page 13, figure 3-12 is the ticket you were looking for Tom. It's an
interesting read with a pretty good analysis and conclusion. The
author notes that his formula begins to fall apart when the number of
dimensions reaches 10 and suggests the use of a high dimension
random cost estimate algo, but that the use of those comes at great
expense to the CPU (which is inline with a few other papers that I
read). The idea of precomputing values piqued my interest and I
thought was very clever, albeit space intensive. *shrug*
-sc
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Sean Chittenden
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